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Imagine if this happens when someone's driving with it on. Apple shouldn't have had a mode called 'driving', it should've been called passenger.

https://preview.redd.it/theres-a-driving-mode-on-vision-pro-...


> But since they don't want to be in the business of making undesirable vehicles with short lifespans that require expensive maintenance

Then why did they go all in on hydrogen cars?

https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/analysis-it-is-now...


"All in" is a very strange way to describe a multinational corporation producing in the single digit thousands of an item. They tried something, it hasn't panned out yet, they're sticking to what they know works in the mean time.


Because the Japanese government bet big on hydrogen and heavily subsidized the industry. Also, is there any evidence that hydrogen vehicles have short lifespan or require expensive maintenance? I don't disagree about how undesirable they are based on fuel cost but its hard to suss out how much of that is just based on extremely low production.


Execution like the wheels falling off their flagship all-ev car? After they've been making cars for 85+ years.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/wheels-falling...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyotas-fix-bz4x-disconnecti...

That doesn't get the headlines and attenion that a icon enlargement software update on Tesla does on HN.


Teslas Have a Minor Issue Where the Wheels Fly Off While Driving, Documents Show - https://futurism.com/tesla-flaws-failures-blame-drivers

It's really easy to cherry pick problems when someone makes millions of cars every year.


Wasn't that about one incident, where the driver was in a traffic accident before the wheel fell off?

Wheels are actually designed to fall off in an accident.


Toyota was forced to recall all their BZX cars for that issue, whereas the scale of the problem you linked appears to be much lower across Tesla's models.


It was a voluntary recall on an extremely low production vehicle (at least at the time), a total of 260 cars with a potential issue.

Compare that to the tens of thousands of ACTUAL INCIDENTS identified by Reuters through Tesla internal documents and Tesla's refusal to even cover the repairs, let alone proactively recall all potentially affected vehicles. Much of what was covered by Reuter's occurred AFTER China forced a recall for the exact same issues.

https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-is-conducting-a-safety-r...

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-mu...


"All their BZX cars" = less than 5,500 cars total. It wasn't just a completely new car model, it was the first one built on Toyota's e-TNGA modular EV platform. The factory line had just barely gotten off the ground.

Toyta sold ten million cars that year so scale wise that doesn't even qualify as a rounding error. The Teslas suspension problems that caused some wheels to fly off effected tens of thousands.


>The CVR was downloaded successfully; however, it was determined that the audio from the accident flight had been overwritten. The CVR circuit breaker had not been manually deactivated after the airplane landed following the accident in time to preserve the accident flight recording

In addition to local storage, why isn't the audio(along with location, altitude and some sensor information) also streamed using something like Starlink or Inmarsat to a secure location where you can store more data for cheaper and with more redundancy?


The current 2 hour limit (which is now 25 hours in Europe) is a legacy of privacy concerns. If pilots are concerned that their bosses would make a habit of yanking longer CVR units to micromanage what goes on in the cockpit (or using events several hours before an incident to somehow push blame onto the pilot for an it), they’d love the idea of it being beamed to a remote location. Yes, I’m sure there could be complicated byzantine cryptographic scheme that would theoretically solve it, but not sure they’d trust it.

There’s also bandwidth and satellite coverage not being magic of course.


This is an old system that works well and reliably for pretty much every incident. I’m not aware of another case of this sort of thing (relevant flight recorder data being overwritten) happening in recent years anyway. If you spend time constantly upgrading systems like this you’re asking for a higher failure rate, for very little gain.

That said, there’s a standard and reliable 25-hour flight voice recorder that solves this problem. But it’s only used outside the US. That’s a regulatory inertia situation and I suspect this incident will speed changes in this area.

However, finally, and particularly in relation to your proposal of streaming cockpit voice recordings to some cloud server. There is some resistance to this (and to longer recordings in general) from air crew on privacy grounds. The privacy issue is less about how much personal info is revealed in a crash situation and more about how easy it would be for a bad actor in management —or whatever operations group runs the audio storage—to listen in on conversations. And you can be sure this would happen if something like your system were implemented without the appropriate regulatory controls (and tbh even with them it would probably still happen).


> I’m not aware of another case of this sort of thing (relevant flight recorder data being overwritten) happening in recent years anyway.

Got me curious how often this happened.

Last example I can find of a CVR being overwritten and not just exploded/missing was in 2018 for an engine fire, similar to this where the flight had to emergency land shortly after take-off. Before that...well a lot of complete failures ("not operative at time of flight") but not many like this scenario.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_and_unusab...


Here's one in 2017 that was recorded over because they didn't report until after another flight https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_759


In 2018 NTSB issued a report (https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/...) listing 17 incidents where CVR was lost due to the recording not being turned off after the incident.

And it also lists 17 more incidents where something happened in a flight and it took more than 2 hours to land so data from the incident was lost.


Starlink is a consumer system. Won't happen without a specialized product. Inmarsat is expensive. And we are talking about streaming audio from all planes currently in flight.



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Dupe submitted by the same user a couple of days ago with 108 comments.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231229


AVP runs other apps at up to 100hz. I think they meant that the MBP screensharing is capped at 60hz.


It's in part that some people are naturally introverts and thus withdraw into non-social activities like reading, anime, movies, music, gaming, programming etc. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy because the other kids are out there interacting with others, and thus learning social cues and skills. For example, alcohol famously reduces social inhibitions.

It's not that the natural introverts cannot learn these skills if they apply their mind to it, in fact it's probably easier for them since they're generally smarter.


> Seems especially egregious compared to the GM settlement mentioned in the article - at $773 million

Maybe the scale, duration, impact and response were different? As I said in the other comment this story appears to be about Tesla service centers' waste, and the GM issue you mentioned is about manufacturing facilities.

> The United States alleged in bankruptcy filings that Old GM operated an aluminum diecasting plant on the Massena property from 1959 to 2009, and that Old GM disposed of hazardous substances including polycholorinated biphenyls (also known as PCBs) at the property

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/united-states-announces-appro...

That was at just one site over a span of half a century.


> Other automakers have terrible track records with hazardous waste. GM agreed to pay a $773 million settlement in 2010 with the US, 14 states, and the Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe over “environmental liabilities” including hazardous waste at its properties.

> In 2022, New Jersey sued Ford for dumping toxic paint sludge and contaminating “hundreds of acres of soil, water, wetlands” and state-recognized tribal lands of the Ramapough Lenape Nation.

A fine of a three quarters of a billion seems like a lot. Sounds like the issues were with GM factories vs Tesla's issue in only the service centers? Would square with Tesla's fine being only $1.5 Million.


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