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Dinner for one: A little-known British comedy famous in Germany (historyhit.com)
474 points by Tomte on Dec 31, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 221 comments



Here in Denmark, it's new years tradition to watch this on NYE, it's about as important as the Queens new years address.

Also, it _NEVER_ stops being fun*

[*] Legally required to hold this opinion.


Don’t forget that while this is broadcast on NYE in Denmark and Sweden, in Norway it’s broadcast on Christmas which is something you should definitely bring up on a mixed Scandinavian family dinner.

It’s also quite fun since there’s a joke relationship between Swedes and Norwegians calling each other stupid, so it’s quite fun to insinuate that Norwegians simply do not understand that the movie is set on NYE.


Here in Norway every year on Christmas eve we also show Karl-Bertil Jonssons jul, a Swedish cartoon from 1975, where a underage postage worker steals packages from the rich and gives it to the poor.

It's hard to imagine it would be well received in most other countries, especially as a tradition.


Don't forget Tre nøtter til Askepott, an old communist Czech movie that's somehow so critical to Norwegian heritage they had to send a Norwegian team to another country to make sure it was preserved and restored.


My favorite part is how it's all dubbed into Norwegian by one guy doing all the voices, but he sorta starts giving up distinguishing the characters about half way through.

Spending Christmas with my friend's Norwegian family was just getting one "tradition" after another explained to me for a week while I continuously got more and more confused.


The guy doing the voices were improvising as he went along, as he was under the impression that it was a test. That this ended up being the track they used is, in itself, really odd. It's a funny track, though, so I guess that could be the reason?


To be pedantic, it was an East German / Czechoslovakian coproduction (called "Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel" here), and it's still huge in Germany too (browse German TV channels at any time between Christmas and New Year, and it's very likely that the movie is running on at least one of them).

The 'movie castle' is Schloss Moritzburg btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritzburg_Castle


Thanks for pointing out. I was confused by parent calling it „communist Czech movie“. It’s a fairy tale FFS, what does it have to do with communism? I never understood that obsession some people have with communism to see everything in the world through their iron curtain glasses.


They simply meant from that era, relax McCarthy.


It's important to understand that everything, even fairytales went through censorship / ideology conformity reviews, especially in those years ("normalisation", after the events of 1968/9). Many movies were either not produced at all or banned after production, others were heavily cut. Yes, even fairytales had to adhere to the communist ideology - for example the poor were usually shown as being morally superior, while the rich were decadent and mostly stupid, etc.


It's also important not to forget that West Germany wasn't immune to the censorship either, and bans, beside what realistically was a Soviet propaganda, also included some really good documentaries and artwork even by today's standards.

https://film-history.org/approaches/not-approved-screening


Not sure why are you singling out West Germany here since the same applies to many other countries and tbh there is no particular issue with filtering content coming from totalitarian enemies interested in destroying you.

The very important distinction here is that were the same policies as in Czechoslovakia applied in West Germany, people like Rainer Werner Fassbinder would not be able to create their movies. Not distribute, create.


> tbh there is no particular issue with filtering content coming from totalitarian enemies interested in destroying you.

Both sides were very much interested in destroying each other (and worked actively on that), but problem is that whenever you have bureaucrats doing censorship in the name of the national or social interests, it ends up affecting far-wider circle of (innocent) people than officially intended, and often can be misused for other (political) purposes. The main reason I even commented on this is that few days ago I've seen an East-Germany documentary on German nazis working as mercenaries in South Africa, which was banned in West Germany, even though it had nothing "communistic" or anti-western - but it touches some not-so-popular subjects on nazis and nazi supporters in West and particularly W. Germany that (although true and well documented) they didn't want people to hear about. So they censored it as "communist propaganda", no questions asked...

Eastern block certainly had a lot more censorship and oppression than West, but it's important to be aware that lots of dirty s** happened in the West too, things were never as black and white as some people like to simplify it now.


Yup, and a remake was released last year, featuring one of our main pop stars. It is apparently an annual Christmas movie in 14 other countries too though, unlike Karl-Bertils, which likely due to the political subject matter is only tradition in the Nordic countries.


Robin Hood is pretty well recieved in the broader west, and Ned Kelly is an Australian icon. I think the theme is pretty universal. For Christmas tradition the west has Scrooge which reveals the inherent disconnect between Christmas and wealth.


"the movie is set on NYE"

Is it? I don't recall anything to suggest that. The title in German in "The 90th birthday".


It's a frequent misconception that it is set on NYE, since one of the guests (Mr. Pomeroy) says "Happy New Year Miss Sophie" in one of his toasts. But this is intended to be a joke, that the butler James is drunk enough to believe for a moment that it is NYE.


I thought he was just wishing Miss Sophie a happy new year, because it is the beginning of a new year for _her_ since this is her birthday.


It's not shown on Christmas in Norway, rather on "little Christmas" (lille julaften), on the 23rd


Some yeas back a DR2 made a satirical parody of it called the 80 years birthday (in Danish it is called "the 90 years birthday") where all the characters was played by a series of Danish comedians https://youtu.be/H07O6j6-6vQ


Thanks for sharing! I didn't know Dinner for One is a thing elsewhere in Europe, and even had parodies.

There are also some German adaptations, like the one with Anette Frier and Ralf Schmitz (two well-known comedians). It's in _kölsch_, the dialect spoken in the Cologne area - which is quite fun to listen to, at least for Germans:

https://youtu.be/yGUo9VfbxnE


A lot of famous comedians have played one version of it (often live ans Theater plays, which I believe is also true for the original). Here is a version with Otto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4iCGdURpd4

There are also several platt versions (a dialekt spoken in the north which is actually more like a separate language)


I prefer the "Dinner für Brot" adaption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smgbPO0KaZw


And lest we forget: The hackneyed Disney Christmas Show at 1600 hours sharp on the 24th of December. In this household, Christmas officially starts when the mouse from Cinderilla squints and runs the thread through the giant needle's eye. These are generally the only two times of the year I have anything to do with live TV. Godt nytår!


Whereas in Sweden it starts at 15 and, for some reason[0], is titled “Donald Duck and his friends wish you Merry Christmas”, despite Jiminy Cricket being the presenter.

[0] The reason is obviously his popularity in Sweden


I was surprised to discover that Mickey Mouse was more popular and well-known in the US than Donald Duck. Come on, Donald Duck is a much more fun and interesting character!


I grew up thinking the Warner Bros. characters were the superior cartoon stars (and that Daffy is better than Bugs; my wife and I still argue about that). Disney is more like Apple...the people who like them really love them and get sucked into the rabbit-hole, but everyone else sees them as a cult.


In Scandinavia, the older generations mostly know these characters from comic magazines rather than the animated cartoons, as those was rarely shown on TV. The Disney magazines was called Donald Duck but also had stories with other Disney characters like Mickey Mouse, Goofy etc. If you ask a Scandinavian about Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse, they will most likely think of the comic magazine rather than the animation.

Disney artists like Carl Barks created new stories in a genre quite distinct from the animated cartoons. While the cartoons are mostly slapstick humor, the Barks stories were longer narratives where the characters went on various adventures. A lot of the stories were produced in Europe for the European market, since the magazines were never as popular in the US (where I believe superhero magazines were more popular, for whatever reason).

WB and Hanna-Barbera and other studios also tried to publish comic magazines, but didn't manage to adapt to the medium as successfully, so they are less well known.


Is it due to the US being prudes and Donald Duck doesn't wear any trousers/underwear?


I'll contribute another anecdotal data point; I've never known anyone even to consider that point of view. It's more that Donald Duck comic books just didn't catch on here the way they did in other countries. But people do recognize Huey, Dewey, and Louie.


No, most Americans don’t perceive him as naked, any more than they do Bugs Bunny or other anthro mascots.

I think it’s the accent. His voice actors are pretty hard to understand sometimes.


Interestingly, having only ever introduced to those characters through comics, I never pictured any particular accent and instead imagined them speaking normally.



And Christmas 2021 Disney mistakenly put on the wrong voices and we almost killed the guy from DR planning it


This was a favorite of mine growing up. But I made the mistake of trying to watch it with my kids once, and behold, it had turned from showing the best of the Disney classic cartoons into running trailers for upcoming Disney movies.

Thanks for destroying that tradition, Disney Inc.


In Switzerland too and it's also shown on national television! And on christmas morning it's tradition that the movie "Drei Nüsse für Aschenbrödel" (Cinderella) is broadcast on national television.



The same procedure as last year?


Same procedure as every year, James


I have watched it in Denmark too for many years. Until I read this article I had no idea that it is watched in other countries as well :)


First time I (Brit) saw it was Christmas at my mother-in-laws in Denmark in about 1998. They couldn’t believe I didn’t know it.


Do people drink along with it? Is it on TV or is a vaguely good copy available.


I‘m sure some people are drinking along with James the Butler (quite a feat) but that is not widespread. It is on TV each year but I would be surprised if many people aren‘t watching via YouTube.


Several years ago, some friends at my then uni started organizing a special sittning [1] on the New Year's Eve, where the idea is simply to watch Dinner for One when it's broadcast and to drink the four served drinks in sync with Miss Sophie. For added challenge one can decide to go either "half" or "full James". It's something of a hilarious deconstruction of the entire concept of sittning, normally a three-course dinner party lasting several hours and featuring plenty of drinking songs and often other entertainment.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sittning#Student_sittning


Can confirm; couldn’t have said it better myself!


As a Brit deeply into comedy I can confirm my total ignorance of "Dinner For One". How very strange what travels. Visiting the US I was surprised how many Americans knew obscure and not terribly funny Monty Python sketches word for word, and meeting a Chinese CTO once whose first words were "Ah Mr. Bean".


For the reverse of the reverse - no one in Germany actually cares about David Hasselhoff.


https://www.berlin.de/en/tickets/rock-pop/david-hasselhoff-8...

He’s not “huge” but as a musician he is bigger in DACH than anywhere else.


To be fair, he used to be huge in the 80s, 90s, with Knight Rider and Baywatch being essential TV shows for every kid.

Now I guess he's just a washed out actor, I didn't even realize he's still touring


If you've been raised in Germany a long time ago, you can watch this Hasselhoff/Reim duet to realise your advanced age...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoa9HfWIx6I


I didn't even know David Hasselhoff made music and this song is amazing, thanks a lot for sharing!


If you like synthwave/cheesy movies, he did a song (and video) for Kung Fury

https://youtu.be/ZTidn2dBYbY


The thing about David Hasselhoff and the Germans is that both are in on the joke, the rest of the world just doesn't get it.


not true. i have seen more david hasselhoff posters in my german peers flats than probably all of the usa combined.


This is an interesting one and I’m going entirely off anecdotal evidence here: yes, you will be seeing David Hasselhoff posters and the like quite often throughout Germany. Me personally, I have yet to meet a single person who unironically likes his music or is a „fan“ (whatever that may mean to you) - and this holds true for the generation of my parents as well.

My working theory is that there’s some kind of reverse self-fulfilling prophecy at play here: It’s been imposed on Germans that “we love Hasselhoff” over and over again and at some point we just went with it, albeit it’s mostly and irony thing now.

Then again, I might be totally off and not realize that I’m looking at it from within a bubble of people not actually liking him.


I don’t know if there is a _current_ fanbase of The Hoff in Germany. But back then, Knight Rider and Baywatch were huge here and _I‘ve been looking for freedom_ was one of the most played songs. And then there is the Berlin Wall incident.


ah i see, well you cannot mix up his music and acting careers. his music career is usually perceived as funny and liking it as a bit ironic, that does not mean that his roles in knight rider and baywatch are not truly loved by many. Just play the opening scene of knight rider at a random party of 30 somethings and you will see the reaction.


I finally heard David Hasselhoff sing - he is pretty good! I’m surprised his singing career wasn’t bigger in the US. All we usually get is T&A + auto tune or suggestive lyrics + shock value, very few people with actual talent for singing.


He definitely was very big with us kids in Switzerland in the 80s


He certainly dominated the lineup of a major Austrian music festival a few years back. His act wasn’t even really good, but people just love him.


Do you still do that routine with the 850nm LED? I tried it but I don't think it did anything for me.


Sometimes yes, for a boost. But I mostly don’t need it anymore since I started addressing my microbiome (butyrate, phages, L Reuteri DSM 17938) and added a highly bioavailable copper that directly increases ATP supply and kills pathogenic bacteria, among other things (from a company called MitoSynergy though I think they‘ll rebrand soon - in case you‘re from Europe, it’s sold under „Cu1“ by a brand called Global Healing). Infrared light or curcumin (a bioavailable one, like longvida) do help if I need to be extra smart, but I‘ve since become more cautious when it comes to pushing performance short-term. There‘s no free lunch. So I‘m looking at improving health and metabolism in general.

If the light doesn’t do anything, you might lack some basic building blocks for whatever photobiomodulation does (stimulating cytochrome-C-oxidase seems to be only one of the effects), like copper or other trace minerals (selenium, iodine, zinc), or B vitamins. Hard to say really, energy production in the body seems to be really complex from what I‘ve read. If you have lots of money to spend on health, you could get a hair tissue mineral analysis and an organic acids test, and see what‘s lacking. Former will probably be $100, latter could be 300-500.


Except Norm Macdonald's ghost, which to this day pops up with that telltale smirk.


>meeting a Chinese CTO once whose first words were "Ah Mr. Bean"

Consistering there is a large statue of Rowan Atkinson / Mr Bean in Yuexiu Park, the largest park in Guangzhou China. Mr Bean is very well known.

Mr Bean is more famous than Monty Python.


British here as well and I only heard about this a couple of years ago whilst looking for xmas films. It's generally unknown in the UK.


Now I need to know just where this transatlantic Monty Python sketch appreciation difference lies...


Mr Bean travels well because it's universal humour requiring no translation. Has done well in British consciousness for a single 15 episode series too. For slightly related reasons, Norman Wisdom became absolutely massive in the Eastern Bloc because his apolitical slapstick could be portrayed as "struggling against capitalism" :D


Rowan Atkinson is such a comic genius. Look at what he can do with a piano key: https://youtu.be/CwzjlmBLfrQ


I think that was the highlight of the opening ceremony. Would be interesting to know if Rowan Atkinson was involved in developing the bit (not so much the video clip but the single note business was well conceived).


I remember The Benny Hill Show was hugely popular outside of the UK too although I suspect it's declined now as it's very much a product of its time.


Saw this a lot in Asia during the late 80s, never understood the hate for it, most of the jokes are on the old white men and he was a real gentleman in real life.


For a long time I hadn’t either. It’s become much more well-known in last few years though - around this time of year a few places like BBC or Guardian run stories on this tradition.


Likewise, never heard of it


The best thing about the German version (if you watch in on tv) is that before the comedy begins, there's an explanation about why it's funny.


Here's the part you mean:

https://www.ndr.de/kultur/dinner_for_one/Dinner-for-One-Hein...

What to keep in mind: It is one of the few pieces of German television tradition that are shown entirely in English - without subtitles. The English is intentionally made so simple that many people without good language skills can understand it. In 1963, however, when the sketch was recorded, a great many Germans knew only a few scraps of English. The explanation is mainly meant to make sure that the following sketch is understood anyway.


The original is being kept original.

This year I learned: there are dialect versions. Seen one in Hessian today.


For anyone outside of Germany who's wondering, the introduction mostly has the function of explaining the setting and the key repeating line to people who might not be completely familiar with the English language. It's usually shown without subtitles.


I found it on YouTube with German subtitles and a rather annoying laugh track.


A laugh track on top of the original laughs (the whole set was filmed in front of a live studio audience)? The audience laughter is an important part of the show, with the person having the most prominent audience laughter being interviewed about her experience 50 years later ("Today I'm rather embarrassed about my laughing" https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/menschen/dinner-for...)


It's a short round up. There's still enough to discover.

I must admit that I was way to long already at adult age before I got the final joke.


What's the final joke?


James assists Miss Sophie to “retire”. The same procedure as every year. wink wink


And furthermore, presumably poor old James has to perform the duties of all the four deceased friends of Miss Sophie that night. Same procedure as every year, James.


He will do his very best.


Germans stereotypically have a conceptual intelligence. If something is good, they will like it. This is why they like badly-translated US sitcoms so much when there's a laugh track. This is why the French sell so much bad-tier wines in fancy bottles (even if you know the producer and the wine, don't buy it in Germany unless you've tasted it or it's certified like AOC). This is why their sense of humour is so...strange.

That said, I like North German humour and Flachwitze.


I’m German-American, and I would say I am culturally much more American than German, but I find German comedy quite funny. I think it is much more observational and satirical than US standup comedy, but it’s also more biting, which makes it funny in a more self reflective way.

German comedy seems to play the role of a court jester speaking uncomfortable truths through humor. American comedy to me is much more surface level by comparison — there are a few comedians like Carlin who seem to have embodied the German satirical spirit.

I think another aspect of German comedy that is very hard to translate is the linguistic structure of it, where the structure of the language often plays a key role in the funniness of the joke.


Being German I think our political satire is really good. Kabarett/Cabaret is huge and has a long tradition and it's often uniquely dark and has a lot of gallows humor compared to other places. We also I think have one of the largest poetry slam communities. Everything that comes out of the performing arts scene really is pretty solid.

But popular television type comedians here are really bad and cringeworthy. Much worse than in Britain or the US. Kind of like music in that way. Popular music in Germany is bad compared to across the pond and most of the good stuff is more niche.


I think German improv is generally better than German sitcoms. I have the disadvantage of mentally translating and overanalyzing as I watch in a way that a native speaker wouldn't, but Schillerstraße, for example, strikes me as funny.


That is embodied very well in the Fastnacht (Carneval), especially of the Mainz and southern German variants (Cologne is a little bit more "Kokelores"), with many acts with biting political satire and commentary.


Yes almost all of my German family is from around Mainz.


Me too!


I'm torn between believing that Germans have a good sense for the absurd, and thinking they just experience joy when they find a good source of randomness with which to re-seed their internal PRNGs.


vell how would man know if zee sketch is funny otherwise?


Isn’t this required for all televised comedy in Germany?

;)


German here - New Year's Eve preparations are nearly done. The Raclette is ready, and I have prepared "Do-it-yourself Mr. Bean" and "Dinner for One" for repeated re-watching. My 3 year old loves it, as I did when I was 3, and as my parents did when they were 3 in the 60ies.

The same procedure as every year.


And how old were each of you when you caught on to the slightly risqué punchline?


I was way beyond 20 when I finally got it.


Your parents loved it when they were 3 in the 60s? The article suggests it only became a regular part of German New Year's Eve celebrations starting in 1972.


The real news: It's going to get a prequel soon.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/30/european-new-y...


I think this might actually be good. Always wondered what happened to her guests. Did she do them in her self? Did they trip on the lion while drunk? So many unanswered questions!


they said prequel, not sequel, though.


A sequel would be an episode of what happened between Miss Sophie and the butler in bed after dinner.

A prequel would be the life and times of her now dead guests.

Don't get me wrong, a sequel would be cool too! Perhaps we could get a glimpse into Miss Sophie's legacy after she passes away, and how her butler needs to contend with her snarky relatives who wants to get rid of that infernal tiger on the floor, only to replace it with an even larger bear pelt.


This should be the top comment!


In the UK, "The Snowman" animation based on Raymond Briggs's picture book appears to have become a tradition on Christmas Eve - since the eighties at least anyway.

No child or most adults can watch without bursting into tears.

https://youtu.be/ZE9KpobX9J8


Book that does that for parents is "Love you forever". I was asked to read it to the children at church one sunday, by a childless woman in charge of the children's program. I refused. None of the parents would read it.

We didn't want to break down in tears in front of the entire congregation.

The woman was baffled. Maybe it has something to do with having children, I don't know. But after my kids wanted it read at bedtime repeatedly, I burned our copy and told them it was lost.


> The book was written after Munsch and his wife had two stillborn babies. They have since adopted three children.

No wonder the story has the vibes it has

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_You_Forever


The Snowman is a tradition here in Finland as well but it airs in the midday just before the announcement of Christmas Peace[1] (which is aired live every year from Turku and watching that as well is a tradition for some).

Quite many Finnish (metal) bands have been covering Snowman song as well but they don't sound as good as the original, though. One example is the cover by Nightwish [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Peace

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nr-kdo6Lx0


With or without the David Bowie voiceover?


In Sweden, it has been shown since 1969 on New Year's Eve. The distribution rights were bought 1963, but since there was so much drinking involved it took 6 more years before it was broadcast. We use the Swiss version that is 11 min long, not the 18 minute German version.


Yes, it is huge here in Sweden. As an Anglo Saxon, I was surprised it was so popular and we never heard of it.


What is an "anglo-saxon"? iirc they died out a thousand years ago.



In a similar vein, "Sound of Music"[1] about the Austrian Trapp family is a very popular Christmas movie in the US, but barely anyone in Austria (and Germany) watched it. The reason may be that Schnitzel is served with noodles in the movie[2]. NO Austrian would ever do that!

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sound_of_Music_(film) [2] - https://oe3.orf.at/stories/2916424/ (German)


I never thought about the schnitzel/noodles thing before, I guess "schnitzel with potato salad" doesn't quite fit with the rhyme nor the rhythm of the song :)

Those famous musicals made during that era aren't usually very culturally accurate. For example Dick Van Dyke played a cockney chimney sweep in Mary Poppins, made a bit of a pigs ear of the accent but otherwise turned in a performance that was really fun, and if you're able to let a few things slide they can be quite enjoyable.


A little know fact is, that the swiss TV produced their own version with the same actors, but subtle (and not so subtle) differences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7Q8B8YB5k


Funny, I just checked on Youtube: all the copies (that are not specif "new" versions with other actors, or dubbed, etc) are this swiss version. And almost noone seems to notice.


What are the differences? Do you have a link to the original?


The NDR version can be watched on their site [0], but it might be region locked. The only notable differences I saw in the Swiss version is they removed the intro and the "Must I?" before taking the admiral's drink.

[0] https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/Dinner-for-One-Das-Original,din...


Same version AFAICT is also on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To8g9XxAdXs


That one is regionlocked and can’t be watched in Germany. ;)


The mos obvious difference is that the Swiss version has no tablecloth.


Can confirm, it's a huge tradition to watch it on NYE in Germany.

It's almost as popular as watching Tatort on public viewing events in bars on Sundays.

I'm also legally obligated to like it, it comes with the citizenship :D


> It's almost as popular as watching Tatort on public viewing events in bars on Sundays.

I have never even heard of anyone doing that, I’d say dinner for one is vastly more popular.


Isn't more of a boomer tradition? Few people really go to bars nowadays, do they?

It's maybe clubs for tweens and even that's declining to my knowledge


> It's maybe clubs for tweens

I’m guessing I’m not the only one who thought that "tweens" meant people in their 20s. As a tip: Don’t say you are into tweens.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tween#Etymology_2


An earlier version of wiktionary had that definition. Apparently it was deleted for lack of citation other than Tolkien which might be an in-universe term.

> 1. A person in their twenties, between 20 and 29 years old. Possibly including 30-32.

> 1954 "The Fellowship of the Ring", J.R.R. Tolkien

> At that time Frodo was still in his tweens, as the hobbits called the irresponsible twenties between childhood and coming of age at thirty-three.


That's amazing, thank you. I just hit my wife over the head with it, and she's not amused. But I feel vindicated that Tolkien, 41*, and I all are ahead of everyone else ;)


Oh, i thought it was people between teen and early twenties, as it looks like a combination of these words.

I misused the word, thanks for pointing that out. Really confusing when you stumble upon such a total misconception about the meaning of a word in your own vocabulary.


As I said, I made exactly the same mistake ;) Teen comes from ten, it only makes sense that tweens comes from twenty. IMO we are right and everyone else is wrong ;)


Also a New Year's tradition in Norway.

It has been broadcast by NRK on New Year's Eve every year since 1980.

https://serienytt.no/events/grevinnen-og-hovmesteren-2022/

https://www.nrk.no/kultur/alt-om-_grevinnen-og-hovmesteren_-...


I think you mean “The Day before Christmas Eve” (what is called “Little Christmas Eve” in Norway) instead of New Year’s Eve.


And it is wildly popular, about 1.7 million viewers (population ~5 millions), around 80% of those watching TV at that time are watching it. And it always aired at 21:00. In 1992, NRK tried to air it earlier, but they received so many calls from the public that night that they re-sent it later in the evening


Yes, of course. No idea why I wrote New Year's Eve. Actually I haven't seen it for several years, no broadcast television subscription.


Not on New Year's Eve. It's always on December 23rd.


It‘s British actors, but was filmed in Hamburg by the public broadcaster NDR. It is a tradition which is not that funny unless you are already shitfaced. Loriot, on the other hand…


Part of the fun comes from seeing it every year. You know all the jokes and look forward to them, but can’t remember their exact order. So you sit on needles every time he approaches the tiger head, wondering. Will he jump it this time, or bypass it unexpectedly? I can’t explain why this makes it funnier, but it does work for me.


The recording shown on TV is a German Production, but the sketch itself originates from British theater and later TV. The origin story is even somewhat interesting. Seems there is not one, but two people who are involved and mainly known for this little sketch. The original author, and the comedian who made it famous around Europe and is the actor from the recording. And in some way it also kinda sad, as it seems to be the only work for which they are now remembered.


I read that Freddie Frinton is better remembered in the UK for starring in the sitcom "Meet the Wife" (which is mentioned in a Beatles song).


Früher war mehr Lametta ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


And then the nuclear plant explodes and all the little cows fall over!


Zicke-zacke, Hühnerkacke!


Düm-Düm-Düüm, Düm-Düm-Düüm, Düm-Düm-Düüm-Dididüm-Dümdüüm[1]

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZKtqz4fzDQ


> Loriot

Bourgeois snobbery!

What's wrong with laughing about a drunk butler tipping over a tiger's head?


Or hopping over it with both feet after the first few times stumbling.


Or drinking from a vase after removing the flowers?


My kids think it's the funniest, and they don't drink :)


Zame procedure as last year, H?

Zame procedure as every year, Feldmarsckalk.

kloph

I'll kill that Bear.

-- The Bunker Version.


Also here in Austria, usually broadcast shortly before midnight.

Not sure if the author confused it with Australia, which is confusingly mentioned under "Popularity across Europe", or lumps us up with Germany, which misses the fun factoid that we split up again in 1945 (and also tends to get people over here surprisingly pissy).


> The short 18 minute long movie has also managed to delight audiences in Australia and South Africa, though it is less popular there than in Europe.

Considering they mention Australia and South Africa together, then later in the same sentence say it is “ less popular there than in Europe,” I would say with 100% confidence that the author meant to say Australia, not Austria.

After all, Australia is not in Europe so if they had meant Austria then it would be strange to say it’s less popular there than in Europe.

There are also many European countries not mentioned so I don’t think anything is being lumped together.


I can confirm that in Australia SBS (a government owned TV channel) has played the show every New Years Eve at 6.10pm for 30 years and everyone I knew always watched it before heading out to celebrations.

https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/article/2016/12/19/broadcast-sb...


> Australia is not in Europe

Maybe not by geography, but by Euro♡ision, it is?


Some of these continental orgs are quite flexible about what countries they permit to join. For example Israel is also in Eurovision, but it’s not in Europe. Similarly Australia are part of the Asian Football Confederation rather than Oceania’s Football Confederation (and Israel is a member of UEFA rather than AFC, for obvious reasons)

I don’t think anyone is saying “Australia is part of Europe” with a straight face though :-)


Saying, no, but feeling, yes. Keating's "Asian Century" version of Australia never took strong cultural hold. Our nearest neighbours PNG & East Timor are ignored except by our NGOs and spies, and few visit Indonesia other than the Bali beach resorts. A brief 1990's spurt in Mandarin teaching in schools is in decline, with European languages remaining the most popular. Australia is still by far the most Eurocentric of the post-WW2 immigration nations. And it's literally the whitest, which is why it's been the destination of choice for so many South Africans since the 1990s.

This is changing to some extent with demographics (immigration from China and India, and some generational change). But surprisingly slowly and shallowly. Few Australians know much about Asia, or even the Pacific, let alone feel theirselves to be part of it.


I wasn't suggesting it was part of Asia, rather highlighting that it was not unusual for Australia or indeed other countries to be part of continental organizations (Israel/UEFA and Aus/AFC/Eurovision) that are different from the continent they're usually considered to be a constituent of (Israel/ME, Aus/Oceania). Regardless I do not think skin tone should come into it.


My "Asia" comment wasn't really a response to you - it's been a part of internal Australian debate since the 1980's. Keating crowned the 21st the "Asian Century", and claimed Australia should turn towards Asia. My point is that never really bit culturally. Australia is geographically Pacific, economically Asian, and culturally European/American Despite self-perception, there isn't really much non-derivative Australian culture beyond some small Indigenous influence, though we're probably a century behind NZ in that respect.

> I do not think skin tone should come into it

It shouldn't, but it certainly does. Little can be understood about Australia without it (well, ethnicity at least - broader than 'skin tone'). A large part of Australia's Europe-longing comes from a historical fear of China (as a kind of stand in for people of Asiatic ethnicity).


I’ll leave to Europeans and Australians to debate. I’ve no skin in this game.


> usually broadcast shortly before midnight.

That’s cute. It’s been a while, but last I checked, there were 10s of broadcasts of it on the different stations throughout the afternoon, evening and night in Germany ;)


Well, you have to scale everything down by a factor of 10 to map German scales to Austrian ones ;)

We have like 2 or so (?) public broadcasting stations. One of which makes a heroic sacrifice for the audience that wants to see Silversterstadl, so we need to compromise a bit.

Typical Austrian tradition is to get unreasonably shitfaced with friends/relatives throughout the day (same as every other holiday), until you have a sufficiently positive outlook on the new year.

In that state you're then able to bare the presidents new year speech for the purpose of sarcastically mocking it, actually find Mundl's antics afterwards funny and can round it off with "Dinner for One", right before going outside and playing with explosives. If you survive, you get to listen to the final parts of The Blue Danube afterwards.


I am from The Netherlands and I had never seen it until I started dating my now-wife. I got the impression that many Germans believe it’s a well-known sketch since it is in English.

Our 8yo daughter thinks it’s hilarious :).


That's funny. I'm Dutch too, and it was a big part of new years eve in my childhood. We watched it every year and loved it. I don't think I got the final joke about the 'procedure' that happens upstairs after the dinner :) I always thought that almost all Dutchies had the same experience but maybe I was wrong


> I always thought that almost all Dutchies had the same experience but maybe I was wrong

Maybe I'm special, but I never heard of it before today.


Interesting... I have talked about with several other Dutch people about this tradition. An no one knew the sketch.


> I got the impression that many Germans believe it’s a well-known sketch

Certainly. I’ve now known for several years that it’s mainly popular here, but I’d never have guessed it.

> since it is in English.

As usual in Germany, dubbed versions are very common


Growing up here in South Africa, my parents and their friends also had a tradition of watching this (recorded on VHS) on New Year's Eve.

I always assumed it was just a thing among my parent's friend group


I wonder why, maybe influence of German heritage South Africans?

This was part of my childhood, and I presumed it must be a British influenced thing.


It's all of Germany, every family I know. I grew up in Düsseldorf in the 1980s and 90s.


Same in Switzerland. There is even a remake/adaption in Swiss German https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNJrprqPVns but I like the original way more.


"It has become traditional viewing on New Year's Eve in European countries such as Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Estonia,[1] or on 23 December in Norway, and, as of 1995, was the most frequently repeated television programme in Germany ever."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinner_for_One


An interesting fact from the German Wikipedia, translation with DeepL:

"The sketch was also part of the New Year's Eve program in the GDR. There, however, not the classic with Frinton and Warden was broadcast from 1978, but an early variant with the actors Ernest E. Regon and June Royal under the title Erinnerungsmahl, which had already been played 20 years earlier on the Munich Varieté stage Annast. Beginning on New Year's Eve 1988, a little less than a year before the fall of the Berlin Wall, GDR television then also showed the Frinton version.[28]"

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinner_for_One


Random trivia,

Here in Germany, we wish each other "Guten Rutsch" on New Years Eve, literally "(have a) good slide (into the new year)"

Guten Rutsch to all


In Poland, the British comedy “keeping up appearances” is very popular for some reason. When I moved to the UK I was surprised it’s almost unknown here for anyone under the age of 60.


It was unusually popular in the US in the 90s because it was shown on the public educational TV network, along with "Are You Being Served?". Because low-brow jokes about Mrs. Slocombe's naughty bits are highly intelligent and sophisticated as long as the accent is British.


>Because low-brow jokes about Mrs. Slocombe's naughty bits are highly intelligent and sophisticated as long as the accent is British.

What 'naughty bits', all I rememeber are joks abut her pussy.

And, for any non-English, or ESL-speakers, 'it' is ithe funniest word in the English language. For any English speakers (mother tongue etc) - prove me wrong. You'll notice, the more you try, the harder it gets.


Fine, but it's a little jarring to go from Sesame Street to documentaries about Roman coins to "I apologize for being late, Captain Peacock, it was raining and I just had to stroke my wet and sensitive pussy. (laugh track gap)"

(Not going to object to "it"--I suspect you may be right.)


Keeping Up Appearances is well known at least by people over 30. It was on prime time TV when we were children.


Not to forget the German TV tradition of watching the "Die Hard" sequel over Christmas on public television.


Same for that too in Sweden! :D Funny this…


Well, the first two /are/ Christmas movies.


Used to be played regularly on New Year's Eve in South Africa as well, at around 18:30 if I recall. Used to watch it before going out for the evening.


Also in Sweden. I’m surprised by how widespread it is.


There is also a digitally colorized version of Dinner for One from 1999 (possibly geo-fenced):

https://www.ardmediathek.de/video/comedy-und-satire/dinner-f...

It is rarely broadcasted in Germany, however, because people just like the original black and white version better and vocally rejected the colorized version when it was first aired.

There were also plans to record a live version in color in 1968, but Freddy Frinton sadly passed away before it was realized.


I'm not exactly sure how we stumbled upon it but it is now a fixture in our New Years Eve celebration. The two of us huddled before the TV we only turn on once per year and eating black-eyed peas for luck in the middle of Texas...


> I'm not exactly sure how we stumbled upon it

Probably over a tiger's head.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCh4FYOqJI - all the action starts at 2:33 (never got what's funny about it, i think it is quite sad)


Most important when watching it is to have a drink whenever the butler drinks.


Dashiell Hammett's novel "The Thin Man" lends itself well to a similar game.


Seems there's a prequel in the works:

> UFA’s planned prequel series, Dinner for Five, based on a 2002 crime caper by the German author Michael Koglin, is set 51 years before the famous birthday party, in the year 1921, at a country house near Eastbourne, East Sussex.

* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/30/european-new-y...


Screened every year in Australia on SBS, the special broadcasting station designed for the migrant diaspora which is Australia.


Really nice to see this here. I'm in the Netherlands and it has been a tradition in my family and my mother's family to watch this (on tv) on new year's eve. It's been quite a while since I watched it, living on my own. I'm going to tune in tonight!


Fellow Dutchie here. This has also been a tradition in my family for as long as I can remember. My parents would actually act out parts of the sketch sometimes.


British comedy writer here and I only heard of it when I worked with Swedish people at a tech job


As a Brit who had not seen or heard of it, this seems to be it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n7VI0rC8ZA

(update there seem to be two versions, 11 and 18 min. This is the 11 min)


“I’ll kill that cat.”


Sugar in the moooorning.


Currently in an Airbnb in Germany that has an old, decrepit tiger rug. They keep it around because it reminds them of this skit! We’ve obviously watched it today


We had German aupairs when I was younger who introduced us to it. They were surprised we'd never heard of it before, but it's excellent.


The last day of the year would not be complete without watching this! Together with "Ein Herz und eine Seele: Silvesterpunch". :)


+1 for Ekel-Alfred


My daughter in law who's Swiss introduced me to this. I can't remember but I think it was on New Years Eve. I remember before VHS tapes they were quite a few shows that were always aired around the same holiday time and we all watched them together (with commercials!). Fun times but like catching your new favorite song on the radio those times are gone.


As a Dutch: never heard of it until very coincidentally earlier today. We decided to spend New Year's in Bremen (beautiful old center btw) so we looked up German new year's traditions online. Apparently the Germans like to eat on the evening before new year's so we were a little unlucky in the finding a restaurant department.


Belgian here, my grandparents put their VHS with the recording on _every single_ New Year's day when we went to visit.


Don't forget the Google easter egg: Google "Dinner for one" and click the tiger!


And in NL. I’m not sure if he still does, but I remember uncle would ritually piss his pants watching this show, while ingurgitating copious amounts of oily pistachios. Fond memories (although I was as puzzled as I am today about the funniness of it.)


It was played every year in Australia for about 20 yr straight on NYE. Dinner for One was always paired with Leninggrad Cowboys with the Red Army Choir.

Between Miss Sophie and Sakke Järvenpää it was a good way to finish or start the year.


When I was a kid The Wizard of Oz on telly was an annual tradition at Christmas. Eventually it died out. This is a kind of modern day replacement (the annual internet post about this odd tradition).


German parody “Dinner für Brot” featuring popular puppet characters: https://youtu.be/NkS4H5fLcq4


In Sweden it's also a bit of a tradition to watch this on NYE.


Feels vaguely familiar, but inverted, to the reality that most Americans have no idea what "Auld Lang Syne" is from, what it means, or what its lyrics even are.


The tradition of only knowing a few of the lyrics and just mumbling through the rest is also alive and well in Scotland ;)


I had never heard of it in 2005 when my future in-laws - Germany - started going on about it. But it is truly brilliant.

I hear they're making a prequel!


I’m reminded of the possibly apocryphal story about 30 Rock being the worst-received comedy in German tv history.


Not apocryphal, here's a source for you: https://www.serienjunkies.de/news/rock-amerika-23820.html

However, it suffered from extremely unfavorable conditions: it ran on a newly introduced digital channel that people would have to fiddle with their TV's settings to receive at all, and competed with some extremely popular series running at the same time.


Yeah, well, I’m married to a German, and if there is anything I’ve learned, it is that Germans respond to jokes not by laughing, but by correcting you.


Because of the Liz Lemon German jokes?


Danes simply have to watch this bloody thing every single New Years Eve.


This is a week after the crowd is already warmed up by die Feuerzangenbowle, right?


We had a Feuerzangenbowle (the drink and the movie) with the German student association at a renowned US university every December, until the university figured out that "Feuerzangenbowle" is an alcoholic drink, and declared that, as promoting an event with an alcoholic drink in the event title was prohibited, we had to rename it...


In some German universities, on December 6 (St. Nicolaus' Day) the movie "Die Feuerzangenbowle is" shown in auditorium maximum and tradition has it that students brew live fire tongs punch in the back rows.


In one of the German places I stayed, it was MUTTERTAG.


As a Brit, I’ve never heard of it.


Also a NYE tradition in Australia.




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