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and the government should continue to fund private enterprise for innovation.

much of the billions for a charger network for EVs has made <10 chargers, they could have provided that to Tesla. similarly the EV tax credits provided to private companies has fueled EV proliferation




The charger thing is misleading. The money hasn't been spent yet, it goes to states to use, and the goal is 2030.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-misleads-on-the-cost...

> Just looking at the $5 billion program dedicated to building charging stations along major highways, Nigro said updated data from 10 states shows the government’s share of building each port is $150,000, on average. That works out to more than 30,000 ports and as many as 7,500 stations, assuming each has four ports (Nigro said the station number will likely be lower, since many stations will have more ports). Even more charging stations and ports can be built with the other $2.5 billion.

They did Tesla an enormous favor by pushing the other car manufacturers to adopt their standard. A good use of government power, IMO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Charging_Standa...


> The charger thing is misleading. The money hasn't been spent yet

Not certain if that is any better. If an organization can't execute, it can't execute. It doesn't matter if it is some frankenstein of Boeing prime contractor and Rocketjet subcontractor or Federal and States.


Sure, and if we’re still at ten completed charging stations in a few years, I’m happy to criticize.

I think that’s unlikely.

Phase one is “submit your plans”. Phase two is “we review, approve, and fund your plans”. I’m not surprised these have taken a while to coordinate across 50 state governments.


2030 for 500K chargers is just separate political goal, it isn't connected to the $7.5B allocated by the bill.

The bill allocates $7.5B over 5 years. He said most will be coming online 2027+ but seemed to admit that the expectation was for more to be online by now. While I agree the "9 stations for $7.5B" there are reasonable concerns here that the money will be well-spent. I can't even find anything on how much has been actually allocated to far and how many chargers are expected.

https://d1dth6e84htgma.cloudfront.net/02_22_24_Letter_to_Sec...


> 2030 for 500K chargers is just separate political goal, it isn't connected to the $7.5B allocated by the bill.

Yes, it is. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/05/congress-ev-charger... "Biden signed the bipartisan infrastructure package into law in 2021 with $7.5 billion specifically directed toward EV chargers, with an eye toward achieving his goal of building 500,000 chargers in the United States by 2030."

> The bill allocates $7.5B over 5 years.

Yes, to hand out to the states. Who then get to spend it on projects. Allocation is the start of the project, not the end.

https://afdc.energy.gov/laws/12744

"FHWA must distribute the NEVI Program Formula Program funds made available each fiscal year (FY) through FY 2026, so that each state receives an amount equal to the state FHWA funding formula determined by 23 U.S. Code 104. To receive funding, states must submit plans to the FHWA and the Joint Office of Energy and Transportation for review and public posting annually, describing how the state intends to distribute NEVI funds. The FHWA announced approval of all initial state plans on September 27, 2022, and FY2024 plans were approved in 2023."

> https://d1dth6e84htgma.cloudfront.net/02_22_24_Letter_to_Sec...

You'll find me fairly unconvinced by a letter from Republican House Representatives to Biden. (You probably would find a letter from Democratic reps to Trump similarly useless as evidence.)


Incorrect.

The number of stations does not appear in the bill.

https://www.congress.gov/117/plaws/publ58/PLAW-117publ58.pdf

The 500,000 charger was a campaign promise in 2020 not directly connected to the funding allocated in 2021

https://grist.org/energy/biden-wants-to-build-500000-ev-char...


How does the government determine where to put all these new chargers?



Turning Elon Musk into the richest person on earth was a US government project on the same kind of scale as the TVA and Apollo program. It’s actually kinda funny when you think about it.


This is reductive, in the extreme, to the point of being incorrect. SpaceX had to sue to win its first contracts, Tesla was actively cut out of Biden administration EV programs and awards. Whatever success they've had, they have absolutely earned.


> Tesla was actively cut out of Biden administration EV programs and awards

Incidentally this was the inception of the Tech Right. Before that, Elon exclusively voted for Democrats.

I didn't realize the impact back then: https://x.com/mualphaxi/status/1817562306764566824


the command of critical projects Elon has is unnatural. He builds his massive projects with no permits or regulatory approvals; see: - the massive supercomputer in Memphis, no power power approval from TVA and did do an EIA. The city council never new about the project.

- Starship and Starbase, no lauch approval

- Tesla FSD, no regulatory approval

-Starlink version 2 upgrade, the competition is still fight. Again, no approval

and many more.. all this projects a massive like really massive.. True Elon is a government project.


Starship and Starbase both required extensive government approvals, including for each launch so far.




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