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These were provided as reasons why people dont want strangers on their land.

Im not sure how actions being illegal is a dismissal of the concerns. People doing illegal things is one of the main drivers for not wanting anyone on the land.




These activities are the post-facto justifications folks typically toss up when objecting to people on their land, but I find their lack of imagination dull beyond belief. If we're constructing hypotheticals around potential bad behavior by unknown actors, spice it up a bit! Why not claim you don't want folks on your land because you're worried someone will construct an unlicensed breeder reactor or idk, perform rituals designed to summon the Elder Ones?

Full Disclosure: I've gotten belligerent with folks crossing my yard to get to the municipal bus stop on my property and spent significant time and effort trying to get it moved off my block. I've intentionally planted invasives along property boundaries to block neighbors views into my property, put up posted signs in a residential neighborhood, and once gleefully ignored a hedgerow full of poison ivy to the point the actual Department of Transportation contacted me to complain about it making the corner of my property unnavigable to foot traffic and a hazard to road traffic. I offer no excuses for any of that, I don't want randos on my property because by and large I despise human beings. All of that is to say I think the entire conversation around ownership rights vs public rights could use a bit more honesty from the landowners who are either afraid of strangers or hate people in general.


The examples are obscure because people are providing examples from a very broad and diverse class.

The category "things you dont want done to or with your property" has millions of things in it, so if you pick 5 randomly they will be odd and dissimilar. That doesn't mean they arent real or legitimate concerns.

I dont think attitudes against trespassing is just fear or misanthropy. Enforcing a permitter is a completely logical method to reduce the number of people doing undesirable things within the perimeter. It is used all the time all over the world as a pre-emptive control.


Understand I don't disagree with you in any meaningful sense, and it may be more of a regional issue (I live in the South), but quite frequently these kinds of excuses are trundled out when what was actually meant is some combination of "the poors disgust me" or "I'm terrified of brown people". :/


Perhaps it is regional. I grew up in a rural area that was very white.

We had issues with people riding dirtbikes and tearing up our land leading to sand traps. We had vehicles and tools stolen, and one case of home burglary. Most common was hunters trespassing to hunt game we cultivated, and sometimes shooting towards our house.

Im sure some of these people were poor, but my distaste for trespassers doesnt come from that.

property rights and no trespassing sings provide a practical tool to for protecting your property. You might not see someone snooping around your garage, but you are more likely to detect them if they are not allowed within a mile of your house.


> If we're constructing hypotheticals around potential bad behavior by unknown actors, spice it up a bit!

> I've gotten belligerent with folks crossing my yard to get to the municipal bus stop on my property

So you want people to come up with unlikely reasons, then immediately turn around and deliver your own "dull beyond belief" example? Have you considered that other people's "hypotheticals" are also "boring" because those are the things they're actually worried about?




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