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Algorithm edits every sales demo into a highlight-reel video (demotime.com)
59 points by bluelightning2k on March 1, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 48 comments



I'm quite intrigued by the design choices made on the website. It's obviously a product for businesses, but the whole website feels almost cartoony and like it's aimed at teens, maybe it's the (almost excessive) use of emoji? Not really a criticism, just my particular feeling whilst browsing, YMMV.


I think I'm a better engineer than a marketer.

Tbh I find even "hard" engineering easier (certainly more comfortable) than "easy" marketing because there is a correct, verifiable and testable answer.

Thanks for the feedback. For every 1 person like you who tells us there are 500 probably who just silently are turned off


I like it. Wait until you get bigger to be boring.


Uhhh..

Business users care more about utility and social proof than whether you overuse emojis.

I wouldn’t take too much stock in one guys opinion from HN.

Test your design and see if it works.

You may find out that emojis perfectly communicate “feeling” over a wall of text.


> I wouldn’t take too much stock in one guys opinion from HN.

100% this!

It could be that there are 500 other viewers being turned off silently, but conversely there could be 500 viewers who find it all appealing.

> Test your design and see if it works.

How would you go about doing this? A redesign and show it to a sub-set of users and see if there is any measurable difference in conversion? This is one of the hard things I struggle with, and seems OP too, is how to actually measure stuff that doesn't have a (single) "correct" answer, such as marketing choices.


Read “Don’t Make Me Think” and “RefactoringUI”

Both helped me a lot as an engineer needing to do design. They are strong individually but I found them to be a powerful compliment to one another when read side by side.


To learn usability testing you'll probably want to jump straight to "Rocket Surgery Made Easy", by the same author of "Don't make me think"

Steve Krug is a former colleague and brilliant guy, but at this stage learning how to test and hear from your users in practice is time 10x better spent than just learning the theory.


Didn’t have this on my reading list, thanks for the recommendation!


I feel with you, I love coding/creating stuff, everything that is rational and does not have room for interpretation if it is wrong or right, but marketing/design and all that is absolutely something I don't want to do and wish it wasn't a necessity for many things.

But I agree with richard and for me it is especially the logo. It feels to me like a logo an alibaba vendor that sells light bulbs would have. I don't know where this specific description came from, but it just feels cheap.


Really appreciate the feedback

I wish there was a unit test for stuff like this, so I could simply make it go green!


Check out Amazon Turk


This is a trend for some time now

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23243646


There are business and there are businesses.

Will this appeal to an indie dev or small “mom&pop” style online business? Yes! It’s amazing.

Will this appeal to an enterprise? No.They have 5 different departments already solving this in-house with an army of agencies on call.


The target first user is a sales rep, not a CEO. It doesn't seem far off the mark.


I read that as a signal that I can easily sign up, test the product, find out the price and pay without having to talk to sales. Although here that seems to be false!


You can't just say something is "guaranteed" without backing it up. What's your guarantee?

https://truthinadvertising.org/resource/guarantees/


The guarantee is if you test there's no charge until it improves conversion rate

And additionally every recap has a button you can press to delete it and refund you.

So two guarantees:

1. overall conversion rate (refund if it doesn't help)

2. quality of each individual demo (1 click refund if you don't like a specific highlight-reel)


The explanatory video lost me with the snippet from the movie Wolf of Wall Street, about fraudulent sales texhniques. Pick a better example.


How about I change it to another Leonardo DiCaprio movie without that connotation - "Catch me if you can?"


Both of themes movies center around fraud. Surely you can find something else?


I meant that as a joke, sorry. (My my British sense of humor)

I'll find another clip. Thanks.


Wow! We allow for the same but the user has to click to highlight moments or highlight the transcript.

Having it automatically done is the next step but as we’re a generalist meeting tool it’s a tad harder (https://spoke.app)

We’ll done!


I don't really understand your companies logo, but I also really like it, find it calming. Is it supposed to be something?


Thanks for the compliment!

It’s the hand sign of “Spock” in Star Trek. The red point in the middle also stands for recording, and the green line + the red point stands for “happy person / user”


Oh right! That's why it's so familiar, it is the live long and prosper sign!!!! Cool logo.


The logo doesn't load for me on mobile


ouch! Thanks for letting me know :)

We definitely need to improve the LP which has never been our forte.

As a team of developpers we spend way too much effort on the product itself, and not enough on marketing, the landing page, etc.

Which is ironic cause this little HN attention is thanks to our logo!


How does this work?

Does it transcribes the video with timestamps (probably using Whisper), uses GPT to highlight/summarize the most relevant parts, cuts and speeds up the video based on timestamps that correspond to highlighted parts, generates summary by GPT and generates a voiceover?


We have one version which works like that.

But for software we can do better. Your reps install a browser extension, which records events on your app's domain. So we can be ultra precise about timestamps.

Then we speed up the visuals to match pre supplied audio content (either AI or real voiceover).

E.g. if you're on app.example.com/stats for 4 minutes, we can speed those visuals up to match a pre recorded explanation.

We also add highlights, which lets us circle/zoom in on specific things automatically.


Totally hijacking this cool product to say something else I wish AI would do for us: better highlight reels for sports games.

Sure, the news can give us the 30-second version that has all the goals (or touchdowns or whatever), but I'd love an AI to edit a 90 minute game into a 15 minute game. Or 10 minute or 20 minute, or whatever the viewer has time for.

It would keep all the goals, of course, but also keep all the near misses and moments of tension and uncertainty, making it feel like a full game in a smaller time.


No worries about hijacking & thanks for the compliment.

I can totally imagine this. Like a slider to choose the edit length (the full thing, the YouTube edit, or the TikTok version)


For American football you can actually see every play back-to-back in ~40 minutes for a 3 hour game. NFL Gamepass releases these cuts 24 hours after.


This is already being done.


Is there a place I can find, say, 15-minute versions of Premier League games?


The landing page for this is great, super clear calls to action, links to examples front and center, bullshit salesy stuff (which is necessary for many viewers, no shade) is below the fold where I can ignore it.

The only real question for me is how hard is the “initial setup”. Could you make a demotime of that process maybe?

Anyway, props, v cool.


Honestly it depends.

If you just want timelapses (e.g. every time you show yourapp.com/stats we speed up that footage to match some pre-recorded audio) then that's very fast.

Highlights (where the app will circle specific elements on screen) are a bit harder.

But we set it up for you and then give you 40 demos to evaluate how it helps conversion. So if you just let us do the setup it's pretty easy.


Saw the green tag. Congrats. Any advice on getting into YC for an aspiring founder?


Green name tag?

Doesn't that just denote a new user? That account is very new, so it certainly fits.


Ohh my bad. I always thought it meant YC founder, lol I'll own my shame instead of editing my original comment


Quite a liberal usage of the word algorithm in your title there… very click-baity of you.

Aside from that, I looked at the examples and I’m not very impressed tbh, is the sped up video and the awkwardly skewed screenshot supposed to be it? I ain’t no marketing or design guy but this doesn’t look that interesting.


The point is that every time you demo, the clips from that exact demo are edited into a highlight reel.

Nobody is saying this should replace a video editor for your main demo on your website. The point is to give 1 summary after every sales meeting.


Genuinely unsure why you think this. We're using an algorithm to edit sales meetings into highlight-reel videos.

There's no secret room full of people doing this work


You’re using it in a too marketingy way for my taste.


That's not very chill, bill.


I don't know why, but this made me laugh. Have an upvote.


On a related note, does anyone know of any algorithms that will automatically edit out non-words, stammering, etc.? When I make audiobooks and such, the editing out of mistakes and other sounds is the majority of my work.


I know it's not AI, but I've seen people discuss their workflow for this before. I'd do some googling! I feel like maybe it was mentioned a few years ago on the cortex podcast?

Here's one I just grabbed: https://sixcolors.com/post/2022/01/in-case-of-podcast-proble...


Weird question: are there any popular software (B2B) where this algorithm would struggle, or scenarios where a highlight-reel edit would be particularly challenging?




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