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How does this differ from the Notes app which has many (most?) of the features in the description? Is Freeform just supposed to make these features more discoverable?



It seems to look like an infinite canvas, which reminds me of the excellent Concepts app (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/concepts/id560586497).

Handwriting support in Concepts doesn't feel as good as Notes or Procreate so I imagine it'll be better in Freeform.


https://excalidraw.com

Infinite canvas, super simple, lightning fast, near zero learning curve. Powerful enough. No arbitrary lock in to the apple ecosystem. Free. Open source.

“Let’s do collaboration”, says the company locking people who dare not be in its ecosystem out. Gross, IMO.


I recently had to make some sketches of schematics. On iPad I tried excalidraw, ms whiteboard, notes, notability, and sketchbook: drawing the same thing on each. To my surprise, notes actually worked the best for me with the snapping editing and exporting. Notability was also very good, but I tried that only after finishing in notes.

Excalidraw works with Apple Pencil which is great but doesn’t have snapping and straightening of lines.


I love Excalidraw when using it on my laptop but the drawing experience with a stylus is just not good enough.

And that’s a shame because I also use Obsidian, which has a decent Excalidraw integration.


I just tried to use it, as the limitations of Freeform bother me, and Jamboard has frustrating privacy implications.

Unfortunately, palm rejection on Excalidraw isn’t great - each time I rest my hand on the screen to start drawing with the pencil, random lines get drawn on the screen.

Shame, as the potential is high. Will bookmark for future in the hopes it improves. Thanks!


Check out concepts if you have time. It’s super flexible and iirc multiplatform.


Nothing too substantive to contribute here, but yeah I really love Excalidraw.

It's exemplary, and I really hope it grows.


Same, it’s simple, open and snappy as f*ck


Note is primarily text based but can include medias and some limited canvas object, this new interface is canvas based and can include text and medias.


My 4yo doesn’t think that Notes is primarily text based. It also has an infinite canvas and you can share a note with others to collaborate.


Unless I'm wrong it's not a vector canvas once saved you can edit shape individually, also you can include media inside this canvas.


The big platform players all need their own spin on Mural. They probably think it’s like Figma for business.

With hybrid work a thing, everyone is trying to win vertically integrated online collaboration. Eventually they’ll sell a wall mount ipad.


I don’t see wall-mount iPad happen. They’d have to offer it in to many different sizes (that also is the reason I never understood why people thought Apple’d start making smart TVs)

The UI also wouldn’t be as good as that of an iPad on your lap, I think, and you can already use airplay to mirror your iPad’s screen on a large screen (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204289)

Finally, if you have a Mac, it can run this program, too, and thus show this on a large screen.


Never underestimate the ability of Apple to completely miss an obvious corporate product.


I'm not sure what you mean here - to be honest I'm not sure what the strategy is with something like this. Corporates typically don't have Macs (though they will have phones)




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