On the the contrary. Military discipline developed from the necessity of training reliable soldiers who don't question critical orders. Independent thinking is an admirable trait, but knowing your soldiers wont leak information is crucial.
In Israel there is a mandatory draft. Every soldier goes to boot camp and units like 8200 have strict military structures. (Success is hard to measure, but Israel's high tech industry is some indication of the benefits of military discipline.)
On the the contrary. Military discipline developed from the necessity of training reliable soldiers who don't question critical orders. Independent thinking is an admirable trait, but knowing your soldiers wont leak information is crucial.
The CIA and NSA have... (goes to look it up)... uhh, some large but undisclosed number of employees. They seem to do a perfectly good job of keeping secrets without needing full-on military discipline.
I'm not actually saying that military training would make anyone a worse hacker, though, I'm just saying that the need for military discipline would limit the number of people (especially in that particular demographic) who wanted to sign up. I have no doubt some of the NSA's best hackers are completely unable to do a single chin-up.
Military discipline developed from the necessity of training reliable soldiers who don't question critical orders.
Military discipline was a necessity to get a company, a battalion, and larger units to work together at all. Strict organization is necessity as chaos is unmanageable with traditional communication means.
Modern organizations have moved on from rigid, hierarchal organizational models to network-centric models. Even military organizations have moved to this direction (discipline and military courtesy is still maintained).
Success is hard to measure, but Israel's high tech industry is some indication of the benefits of military discipline.
High tech industry has been proved to benefit from military funding. Israel spends larger portion of its GDP to (military) R&D than any other nation.
Please take this as a quote and as tongue-in-cheek, but during my (very limited, I know that I'm not representative) military services the 'US grunt' was one of the things our superiors made most fun of.
'Follow orders blindly' (which is more or less the thing we're arguing about) was actively discouraged from the leadership.
Is this good? How can I tell.. But since I started out biased (i.e. with a working brain) I did enjoy that part of my service.
I didn't explain myself well. My goal wasn't to suggest that the Israeli army teaches soldiers to blindly follow orders - by all accounts the opposite is true. Rather, I was addressing the grandparent post's derisive comment about teaching soldiers to salute, respect authority, and generally behave in a disciplined manner.
So by this idea, then PFC Bradley Manning is a soldier trained to not leak information? He is the guy who sent wikileaks a large pile of confidential information.
silverstorm, the mandatory draft includes women. (Although exemptions are common in orthodox communities where woman trade army service for two years of mandatory social work.)
In Israel there is a mandatory draft. Every soldier goes to boot camp and units like 8200 have strict military structures. (Success is hard to measure, but Israel's high tech industry is some indication of the benefits of military discipline.)