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Both are guest languages, Java owns the platform.

What did the trick are the other programming languages that can stand on their own as platforms.




Scala can compile to JS or LLVM. Why owning a platform when amazing ones already exist?


One either gets to say where the platform goes, or keeps playing catch-up with its features, requires additional tooling, wrapper libraries, care about FFI, IDE plugins that understand all of that in a coherent way.




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