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Was thinking of maybe giving an iPhone (ideally jailbroken) a go in the future because of all the work they are doing for privacy, and then they pull this. Definately too controlling for my liking (not that I use Discord NSFW servers but it's a slippery slope).

Will stick to Android and hopefully root to add privacy instead.




I used to Jailbreak any of my iOS devices, but I found that iOS has gotten good enough, that I really don't needed any of the tweaks and what not anymore. Overall I really really like the iOS experiences.

Privacy is a different concern. The mail app pre-installed on my Samsung phone wanted me to agree to a EULA that lets them process any of my mail. I also find that unacceptable, so I found a different mail client I liked and I did the same thing with the entire phone, basically. It's possible, but it's just no annoying and not something I really want to be dealing with. It seems like we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

(Yes, I am well aware of the Librem and other such noble efforts, but I can also begrudgingly admit that I'm just not willing to put up with their flaws either.)


You don't need to go full librem; get a moto g with an official lineage os port, add gapps if needed, add magisk to taste, done.


I might, but I've had mediocre experiences with custom images in the past, even with officially supported Cyanogen versions. Something would randomly break and only a reflash would fix it. Has this gotten better?

I used to love tinkering, but my phone has become nothing more than a tool and I need it to just work. If I forego Magisk and other root-related tools, can I expect mobile banking and such to just work?

EDIT: Seems I can't reply to a reply to this. (Does HN have a depth limit?) I am aware, Cyanogen hasn't been a thing for some time, hence my question: has the situation genuinely improved since then? I would like to avoid buying a phone just to see if it would work for me.


LineageOS has been great for me, many OTA minor version upgrades and at least 3 major version upgrades have all gone smoothly.

However at some point an update to my bank's app made it refuse to run citing insecure device - it's not rooted so this was a little surprising. I don't know how common that is, no experience with other banks.


Appreciate the feedback! Maybe I will take another go at it.


It hasn't been Cyanogenmod for 4 years. Maybe need to take a fresh look.


If you think iOS lockdown is bad on adult stuff, wait until I tell you what they do to web browsers (must just skin safari webkit, not have their own engine), emulators (not allowed in app store), launcher apps (not allowed in app store), etc.

If you're so worried about privacy on Android that you'd consider jumping to closed source Apple iOS, consider buying a OnePlus (or other supported) device and then installing LineageOS or another fully open source OS. You don't have to use stock Android and many of the custom OS / ROMs have 0 ties to Google / don't install Google service / etc.


If you go Android, definitely take a look at userspace firewall options. I like and use NetGuard, it's open source, and all done through the local VPN API (no traffic leaves device) - gives you control of which apps can go online. If you install it from GitHub (rather than the play store, no root required either way), it can do local DNS host blocking too.


If Apple made an iPhone version with 3.5 jack, i'd throw my Samsung out of the window (literally) in a second. I have no interest to replace my 300euro or so headphones with their Bluetooth garbage.


A 3.5 jack to lightning connect converter cost maybe $5. I have a set of mixed devices, some with and some without a 3.5 jack. I bought a few of these converters and just toss them in the headset cases (of which I also have a few).


Of course there is a way, but to be honest, I'm tired of dongles and converters and cables and chargers and such. I have so many of them.




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