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There are a thousand gradients between the current lockdown and "open everything up". Almost no one is arguing we should open everything. Hearing this false choice over and over is getting old fast.



Currently workers on beef production are getting sick and factories are closing.

Now you can go to parks, beaches, grocery shopping, order food. What do you so deperately need to do? Have a beer in a bar? 80% of americans dont want to have anything start opening again.

And when you do force things open again you force workers who dont want to go back to work and feel its unsafe to go back to start working again, theres no benefits to recieve.


"What do you so deperately need to do? "

What a bizarre thing to ask. As if we need some special justification for wanting the lockdowns to be both effective and as permissive as possible. It would be strange for someone to want restrictions to be more stringent just for the sake of stringency. Efficacy is what matters, and "more strict" does not necessarily equal more effective.

If we knew we could open up school for small children without causing an intolerable spike in the transmission rate, wouldn't we want to do this? Of course we would. That's exactly what's happening in Germany and Denmark right now.


more people live in los angeles then in denmark. how that can be comparable to the us?

transmission is higher indoors, why would you put kids in schools?

do you have a source on german schools for little kids being open? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...


The article you linked is well over a month old. You can google this stuff yourself since you clearly are not keeping up with the news.

The restrictions in Denmark and Germany for schoolchildren are elaborate and inventive. We should be working on something similar here. The size of the country is a red herring, as these are local actions overseen by local schools. Of course I would put my kids in schools with these kinds of safeguards. Children need school.

And remember, our goal is not to prevent all transmission of the virus, only to keep the transmission rate low. Some transmission is unavoidable, so we have to be smart, not mindlessly strict.


They have had their lockdown going for that long. It's disingenuous to present germany like they had school open the whole time. They only just partially reopened. It hasn't been long enough to say whether its been a good idea yet or not.

California has a plan for reopening. Newsom has shared it, its reasonable




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